A Lesson On The Peaceable Transfer Of Power and Why America Must Remain A Civil Society

- Let me be clear: If America submitted first to God, if our allegiance as a people was to God and not law, today we would not have seen a peaceable transfer of power--

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  Bill Rapp wrong

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  Soup McGee -- but but but

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  Soup McGee - Bill Rapp no, Gods laws always come before mans laws. Gods intent will always trump what laws man puts in place.----

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  Soup McGee -- this president supports equality for gays

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  Soup McGee -- this president is 'pro-choice --

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  Bill Rapp hey Soup, do you know that women that have abortions have a higher rate of getting breast cancer?

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  Soup McGee and this link is from a group assoc. w/ what I call the Norquist Coalition...I would source it, but you don't Really care...Can you source that Study Bill? http://youtu.be/4xhTw_aJuYA
  

  
  

  Did Jesus reveal the name of the Antichrist (Barack Obama)

  
  

  http://www.sacrednamebible.com/kjvstrongs/STRHEB12.htm This has to be some right...See More

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  Soup McGee I can source Everything I assert...What I assert is Rarely MY opinion...--

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  Soup McGee -- do you realize you are making my point? God's law is not the law of the land...if you want to believe that women who get abortions are punished by God with breast Cancer more power to you...but when you make it law that woman do not have the choice ...See More

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  Bill Rapp so now you think I am some kind of Norquist worshiper? SMH

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  Bill Rapp I think abortion is wrong because it is murder.

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  Soup McGee -- meanwhile, the law of the land is that abortions are legal, and the Hyde amendment is meant to protect your 'beliefs.' If you want redress, use the secular mechanism known as government and ask for redress. You are guaranteed redress....and no, not You are part of some norquist Coalition, Right Wing Birds of Pray is, and that is where I found the Obama is antichrist link...---

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  Soup McGee -- you personalize things I say ..I am not Attacking you...I believe differently...I try to maintain a jovial respect...fair enough?--

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  Bill Rapp oh, you must be unaware the left was running around claiming Reagan was the anti christ when he was president. LOL

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  Soup McGee -- the Personhood amendment that Ryan co-sponsored makes a zygote a full citizen --that makes miscarriage murder under your definition, and my wife a two-time felon. Please address --

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  Soup McGee and the person who tried to kill reagan didn't believe that reagan was the antichrist.

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  Bill Rapp I think I have said more then enough times that men pervert Gods laws. but yet the Norquist link.

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  Soup McGee the person who tried to KILL BARACK OBAMA did: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/oscar-ramiro-ortega-hernandez-charged-with-attempt-to-assassinate-obama/2011/11/17/gIQAZC9BVN_blog.html
  

  
  

  Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez charged with attempt to assassinate Obama

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  He had “increasingly become more agitated against the federal government” in recent months, an FBI agent wrote.

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  Soup McGee and

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  Soup McGee again

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  Soup McGee Bill

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  Soup McGee the norquist link I make comes from https://www.facebook.com/RightWingedBirdsOfPray?ref=ts&fref=ts
  

  
  

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  Soup McGee so slow your roll

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  Bill Rapp I said the left. I was not specific as who on the left. but there were people on the left claiming reagan was the anti christ because all 3 of his names ( Ronald wilson reagan) all had six letters. so could we please stay away from the stupid BS from both sides.

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  Soup McGee --now-- you say abortion is murder. ryan co-sponsored a bill that would make the death of a zygote an abortion. Is my wife a two time murderer? C'mon, man...that deserves an answer---

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  Soup McGee --""Convinced that the federal government was conspiring against him, the 21-year-old man accused of firing rifle shots at the White House last week drove from Idaho to Washington in an old Honda Accord on a mission to kill President Obama, whom he described as “the devil” and “the anti-Christ,” authorities say."""-

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  Soup McGee -- he fired shots at the White House from about 750 yards away shortly after 9 p.m. Friday. ---did the left do that?

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  Soup McGee my question, relating to the OP...Bill, you say abortion is murder. ryan co-sponsored a bill that would make the death of a zygote an abortion. Is my wife a two time murderer? C'mon, man...that deserves an answer---

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  Bill Rapp this is why it is useless to talk about this with a liberal. you jump from one thing to another. I really don't give a fuck what some crazy fuck does claiming God told him to do it or otherwise!

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  Bill Rapp from a biological point of view. NO CONCEPTION NO FUCKING CHILD/BABY

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  Bill Rapp where does God come into that Soup???

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  Bill Rapp where am I using religious doctrine in that?

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  Soup McGee Soup McGee - Bill Rapp no, Gods laws always come before mans laws. Gods intent will always trump what laws man puts in place.----
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  Soup McGee -- this president supports equality for gays
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  Bill Rapp hey Soup, do you know that women that have abortions have a higher rate of getting breast cancer?
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  Bill Rapp I think abortion is wrong because it is murder.
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  so you brought abortion and breast cancer as a link to the OP, Bill, not I...I mentioned abortion...you brought up a study you can't prove exists...you haven't yet...

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  Soup McGee Straight question, OP related...single subject, no jumping around... my wife a two-time murderer?

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  Soup McGee she has had two sad miscarriages...am I an accomplice? Because under the God-inspired' Ryan co-sponsored Personhood Bill...

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  Soup McGee where Gods law comes first man is doomed.

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    Soup McGee -- Bill Bill Bill -- this law would make any miscarriage a crime --Congressional GOP Pushes Zygote Personhood Bills | Mother Jones
    www.motherjones.com/.../mississippi-personhood-zygote-fe...
    
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    Nov 8, 2011 – On Tuesday, voters in Mississippi headed to the polls to vote on an amendment to the state Constitution that would designate inseminated ...
    Oklahoma Senate Passes Personhood Bill; Zygotes Rejoice
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    Feb 17, 2012 – Great news, fully realized, super advanced fetuses who are reading this: the Oklahoma Senate today overwhelmingly passed a law that defines ...
    The Zygote Personhood Bill
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    Jan 9, 2013 – The Zygote Personhood Bill. Now that Paul Ryan's reintroduced the bill to give fetuses human rights just like people have, essen.
    Paul Ryan Cosponsors New Fetal Personhood Bill
    www.huffingtonpost.com/.../paul-ryan-personhood-bill_n_2440365....
    Jan 9, 2013 – Despite the deep unpopularity of fetal personhood bills in 2012, Rep. ... a bill that gives full legal rights to human zygotes from the moment of ...

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    Bill Rapp sorry, you still don't understand what I mean when I say Gods laws come first. seems you are deliberately taking it out of context.

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    Soup McGee because GOD SAYS SO!

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    Bill Rapp and what part of men pervert Gods laws have you not understood Soup???

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    Soup McGee -- ryan and the pro-life, NORQUIST-Related Coalition, push this Personhood Amendment...it criminalizes locally and federally, the death of a Fucking Zygote, Bill...

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    Bill Rapp are you asking me to justify what they are doing because I believe in God?

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    Bill Rapp wtf

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    Soup McGee --so why would we keep basing our laws on what the bible says and not on precedent? Why work to overturn roe v. wade so damn hard...? Where are the JOBS? God's aw, to many of these legislators, comes first. Therein lies the problem...for example:

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    Soup McGee and no, you are just telling me that gods laws come before mans laws

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    Judy Richburg http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TAYITODNvlM
    

    
    

    How Long? Not Long!

    
    

    Martin Luther King in Montgomery, Alabama on March 25, 1965.

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    Soup McGee and I m providing a clear example of why we need civil law and not gods law to maintain a peaceable transfer of power...none would have occurred today..you still have not addressed that point...

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    Soup McGee god does not set forth a procedure for the peaceable transfer of power, Bill.

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    Soup McGee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjtpplE39_g how long must we sing this song?
    

    
    

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    Soup McGee http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TAYITODNvlM
    

    
    

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    Martin Luther King in Montgomery, Alabama on March 25, 1965.

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    Soup McGee !!!

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      Bill Rapp this is why it is almost impossible to discuss this. If you don't understand Gods plans from the beginning, you can't just explain it to someone working from the end. and just because you can quote from the early laws does not mean you understand Gods plans. and it would take to long to try and explain it and post the proof.

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      Bill Rapp so, claim you won or whatever you like.
      

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        Bill Rapp and you still don't understand what I was saying. you conveniently left out the part where I said according to HIS plans ----------Soup McGee and no, you are just telling me that gods laws come before mans laws

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        Soup McGee -- dude, stop personalizing and address direct questions. You keep avoiding direct questions and saying I am jumping subjects y addressing your diversions...people can read this Whole Thread, dontcha know
        
        And nobody wins if Oklahoma removes the section of their state constitution that separates church and state-- how could there be a peaceable transfer of power if every state did that? I did not start a thread to WIN...I started a thread to give voice to my concern that a rising theonomy threatens democracy...
        http://newsok.com/oklahomas-constitutional-separation-of-church-and-state-measure-could-face-repeal/article/3651322
        "The proposal calls for voters to consider removing Article 2, Section 5 of the state constitution."
        Ok. State. Const.:"[Previous] [Next] [Up] [Top]
        Section II-5: Public money or property - Use for sectarian purposes.
        
        No public money or property shall ever be appropriated,
        applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use,
        benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system
        of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest,
        preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or
        sectarian institution as such.
        
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        So...if no religious test shall be required, wtf, Bill? Wtf?
        

        
        

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        Soup McGee ^^^^is that according to God's Plan Bill? To remove separation of Church and state explicitly from the Constitution? Where in the bible does the text lay out the process for the peaceable transfer of power in a democratic republic, Bill? Where? That is the point of the OP...care to try?

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        Soup McGee -- with separation explicitly removed, would not a personhood amendment possibly lead to the death penalty for faultless miscarriage?

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    Soup McGee -- with separation explicitly removed, would not a personhood amendment possibly lead to the death penalty for faultless miscarriage?

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    Bill Rapp I think you are looking at this backwards. so let me ask, where in the Bible does it say church and state must be separate? isn't that mans law to separate church and state?

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    Soup McGee -- why should I give a fuck about what the Bible says, I don't believe Gods law comes first. Of course you 'think I am looking at this backwards.' #Duh.

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    Soup McGee Where in the bible does the text lay out the process for the peaceable transfer of power in a democratic republic, Bill? Where? That is the point of the OP...care to try

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    Soup McGee yet?

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    Bill Rapp you did bring up the separation of church and state. who's law is it to separate church and state?

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    Soup McGee Bill Rapp you did bring up the separation of church and state. who's law is it to separate church and state?
    
    mans, and we live by it and under it...Soup McGee
    - Let me be clear: If America submitted first to God, if our allegiance as a people was to God and not law, today we would not have seen a peaceable transfer of power--
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    Soup McGee -- because this will get boring Really Fast...--

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      Bill Rapp well Jefferson and Franklin believed that America was set up by divine intervention. if that is true, then God did set up a system for the peaceful transfer of power under our system. if you think I am wrong, look at the original seal of the U.S that jefferson and Franklin wanted but didn't get.

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      Soup McGee Bill Rapp you did bring up the separation of church and state. who's law is it to separate church and state?
      
      mans, and we live by it and under it...Soup McGee
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      Soup McGee -- because this will get boring Really Fast...--

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      Bill Rapp this is why it is almost useless to talk about. if you don't know the original plans of God, you can't even ask the right questions. you are asking questions from a point of ignorance. and I do not mean that as an insult.

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      Bill Rapp so I'm done.

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