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Soup McGee not even...only cons are running to make political hay out of it, like Susan Collins R maine, on the Intel committee for fucks sake, saying she is just learning about a bunch of programs she has been routinely overseeing---- Soup McGee -- if she didn't know then she is incompetent and should be REMOVED from office; as in, show up, constituents, and demand her resignation!
- Soup McGee --this is a phone line. I completely expect (and even HOPE that) everything is scanned, read, archived, etc. So, considering that in the, let's say, 1930's, the operator would not only patch you through to your connection, but then listen IN so they could hang up at the end; tell me again, those who are all Freaked out by this, how this is Extra-Constitutional? Because, whether I am for or against ' non targeted information gathering on citizens,' the Patriot Act is law, whether I am in agreement with it or not. Additionally, Smith v. Maryland is the case of record re: telephone records and privacy...so, why exactly, this SUDDEN opposition?-----
- Soup McGee -- so change the law...don't get on the Admin for what fed. judges and Congress and the SC say is Constitutional...
Mathew Traywick Why is it unconstitutional for the government to spy on your private records without a warrant?
The fourth amendment.- Soup McGee types AT LEAST as fast as some of you think--
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=442&invol=735
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FindLaw | Find a Lawyer. Find Answers. - Soup McGee """""It is not clear how the NSA interfaces with the companies. It cannot use standard law enforcement transmission channels to do, since most use data protocols that are not compatible with that hardware. Several of the companies mentioned in the Post...See More
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Analysts at the National Security Agency can now secretly access real-time user data provided by as many... - Soup McGee to repeat-
It is possible, but not likely, that the NSA clandestinely burrows into servers on American soil, without the knowledge of the company in question, although that would be illegal."""""""""http://theweek.com/article/index/245311/sources-nsa-sucks-in-data-from-50-companies
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Analysts at the National Security Agency can now secretly access real-time user data provided by as many... - Soup McGee --------"Petitioner in all probability entertained no actual expectation of privacy in the phone numbers he dialed, and even if he did, his expectation was not "legitimate." First, it is doubtful that telephone users in general have any expectation of ...See More
- Soup McGee ---dum dum dum dum DUM!-"Petitioner in all probability entertained no actual expectation of privacy in the phone numbers he dialed, and even if he did, his expectation was not "legitimate." First, it is doubtful that telephone users in general have any...See More
Mary Elizabeth This is an excellent point:
only cons are running to make political hay out of it, like Susan Collins R maine, on the Intel committee for fucks sake, saying she is just learning about a bunch of programs she has been routinely overseeing---- Soup McGee Petitioner in all probability entertained no actual expectation of privacy in the phone numbers he dialed, and even if he did, his expectation was not "legitimate." First, it is doubtful that telephone users in general have any expectation of privacy regarding the numbers they dial, since they typically know that they must convey phone numbers to the telephone company and that the company has facilities for recording this information and does in fact record it for various legitimate business purposes.
Vince Leotardo ehh that had to do with pen registers
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Vince Leotardo LOL< I like when people compare apples and oranges
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Soup McGee Petitioner in all probability entertained no actual expectation of privacy in the phone numbers he dialed, and even if he d...See More - Vince Leotardo Where does it sy the government then can make the company give them the numbers but they have to keep it secret?
- Vince Leotardo Once again you know shit about shit. The PA has never been fully brought before the Court
- Soup McGee Petitioner in all probability entertained no actual expectation of privacy in the phone numbers he dialed, and even if he did, his expectation was not "legitimate." First, it is doubtful that telephone users in general have any expectation of privacy regarding the numbers they dial, since they typically know that they must convey phone numbers to the telephone company and that the company has facilities for recording this information and does in fact record it for various legitimate business purposes.
Vince Leotardo ehh that had to do with pen registers
2 minutes ago · Like - Vince Leotardo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_v._Maryland
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Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735 (1979),[1] was a case in which the Supreme Court...See More - Soup McGee -- yeah, that's this one! http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=442&invol=735 Petitioner in all probability entertained no actual expectation of privacy in the phone numbers he dialed, and even if he did, his expectation was not "legitimate." First, it is doubtful that telephone users in general have any expectation of privacy regarding the numbers they dial, since they typically know that they must convey phone numbers to the telephone company and that the company has facilities for recording this information and does in fact record it for various legitimate business purposes.
about PHONE LINES AND NUMBERS!
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FindLaw | Find a Lawyer. Find Answers. - Mathew Traywick Which is different. This is taking pretty much everyone's call logs, and then giving you access to their locations, their social network, and their general day-to-day activity. You don't actually need to know what they were talking about now: you can check who they call and where their movements go from there to get a decent idea of what's going on.
- Mathew Traywick Furthermore, unlike in pre-PATRIOT Act days, none of this information ever gets destroyed.
- Soup McGee is glad we all agree--http://soupsauntieoxymoron.blogspot.com/2012/05/exclusivity-agenda-tacit-complicity-and.html
education professor Joseph Featherstone: “An anti-statist position, pure and simple, is a tacit endorsement of rule by the giant corporations.” A clear example of this control is the 1978 Right to Privacy Act, which “severely restricted” federal access to “bank account records and credit reports, but exempted private employers, state agencies, creditors, and even solicitation firms.” Truly, “business policies regulate family life far more extensively” than the so-called nanny state (146). Down goes the myth!
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PRISM is only following foreign nationalists?? Bull shit!
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Ginger Posey And isn't that such a lovely psudonym??oops spell check out...
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Soup McGee jess sayin' http://soupsauntieoxymoron.blogspot.com/2013/06/this-is-phone-line-i-have-no-expectaion.html
Soup's Auntie OxyMoron: This Is A Phone Line; I Have No Expectaion Of Privacy; If I Do, It Is...
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Ginger Posey i hAVEN'T READ IT YET SOUP BUT NOTHING ON THE SUBJECT SURPRISES ME. gd cap locks
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Chris Lowe Yeah, the recent revelations about FBI "attentions" to Occupy give me great confidence. Not to mention the possibilities of extra-legal abuses for purposes of political or purely venal blackmail, that wouldn't need to pass court imposed legal restrictions.
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Soup McGee ---"The outrage this time seems to stem from the fact that the government is widely collecting call records, not merely those associated with a particular suspect or group. But this fear misunderstands how the program works. From what we know, the NSA ...See More
Thank You for Data-Mining
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The Wall Street Journal argues the NSA's 'metadata' surveillance is legal and necessary.
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Ginger Posey It is so interesting how the politicians and mainstream media sidestep...we can see right through them/it.
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Ginger Posey TY Soup!
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Soup McGee --"Someone leaked a classified three-page order from the special court established by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, to Glenn Greenwald of the Guardian newspaper, who is a committed anti-antiterror partisan."
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Soup McGee I bet if the NSA was privatized and outsourced to Haliburton somehow this would barely be noticed; forbid the Admin try to prevent the Chinese from stealing Bank Passwords, for fucks sake...---
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Ginger Posey The big line on drones in their propagandai videos is, drones save lives. What is it the big guy says....yup the Obomber same rhetoric. This is the first time I have ever called him that and it makes me so sad.
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Chris Lowe Soup, what need to keep the program secret? Your quote presupposes agreement on what constitutes "suspicious patterns." Since we know the FBI was considering very limited public dissidence as "potential terrorism," I'm not buying it. NPR reported yesterday that the standard being advanced is "reasonable suspicion," which a) raises questions about why probable cause shouldn't be the standard and b) even if we granted the standard, reasonable in whose eyes, subject to what kind of accountability?
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Soup McGee -- uh, the oversight of all three branches of Our Government?
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Soup McGee and the need to keep such a program secret? That's hardly a serious question...
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Soup McGee -- reeal the AUMF, repeal the Patriot Act, repeal the 1978 law that gives Corps. the right to this info, repeal the law from 1979 that says that we have no right to privacy on the phone-- I am all for all of that--
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Soup McGee but don't give me that Obomber Bullshit...all three branches of gov. signed off on this...
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Soup McGee - -- obama came in and added WARRANTS to the Warrantless Wiretapping that WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL under Bush...at least give him that!
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Ginger Posey Of course but he has lied through his teeth too.
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Ginger Posey He as become a cog, a tool.
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Soup McGee blah blah do you even hear yourself?
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Soup McGee ginger
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Soup McGee seriously
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Soup McGee ginger
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Soup McGee seriously
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Soup McGee -- the headline could just as well read: President Steps Up America's Offense in the Cyberwars---- but why congratulate a guy for doing his job well when you can insinuate a new conspiracy?
Obama orders US to draw up cyber target list – full document text
www.guardian.co.uk---
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Ginger Posey Soup if you want to help enlige respectful.hten me then
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Soup McGee Ginger Posey Of course but he has lied through his teeth too.
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Ginger Posey He as become a cog, a tool.
heavy accusation to make and then ask me to be civil...
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Soup McGee needs a sourced example of a lie he's told...otherwise, I am O.U.T.
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Soup McGee -- you know FISA are Federal judges right? and congress, the intel com. approved of this? So...it's the President's FAULT somehow? Blah Blah.
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Ginger Posey Go in peace.
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Soup McGee --these are WAR OPERATIONS. The Admin is not alone in the actual administration of these laws...yeah, Obomber for you then.
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