Saturday, September 28, 2013

Soup's Fair Question


So, once the Government shuts down, how do any of the R members of Congress vote to re-open it, without fear of primaries to the right? How, given the long-term goal of the right to 'drown government in a bathtub'--how do we get ANY of these Nativist Randian Calvinist IDIOTS to agree to REOPEN the Government?

Friday, September 27, 2013

Some Thoughts on Voting, Why We Should, etc.--from Assignment



Soup McGee Last Edited: Sep 25, 2013 12:00 PM


What are the records? Abysmal, considering the importance of a well-informed populace in maintaining our system, which transfers power peaceably. To do so requires constant legitiamacy amongst a majority; much of the inertia and obstruction we see from THAT faction in Congress is due to NOT Enough people voting in midterms. 

So many people I know were saying that ‘Obama is President not, nothing to worry about,’ not heeding my warnings that R’s would surely rally around the ‘cross and the flag’ to defeat HIS agenda. And they did, by motivating their base with lies and distortions—which is why we see dummies like Ted Cruz pretend to filibuster…when he really just wants to run for President on the ‘Died Alone King of the Mountain Trying To Defund ObamaCare’ ticket. 

If more people who supported the President had turned out for those midterms, America would not be in the mess we are in, where the richest four hundred or so families, jointly owning the majority of the most profitable corporations and in their sixth or seventh generation of landed gentry, are depending on a Third Wave of Reformation in Christianity (Joshua Generation and the like) and a voting bloc determined to end what they see as ‘Democracy's Evil Hold On God's Sphere of Authority (Rj Rushdoony, etc.).’


 Having disguised themselves as American (meaning these companies are mostly off-shored financially and place almost no priority on maintaining civil society), their ultimate goal is to separate us from our primary rights. 

We have seen this with Voter ID measures and in attempts to re-segregate (!) in North Carolina, for example. Through the manipulation of media (interlocking directorates—11 of 15 ‘richest’ companies have at least two Board Members on the Board of another of the 11…Conley, “You May Ask Yourself”), they seek to influence the government through inciting voters to hysteria such that we find they have replace civil law with biblical law- regardless of the fact that it violates the First Amendment- by imposing the theory of theonomy.  

We do already see this in the attempts, recently even at the county level, to make abortion inaccessible, even though until 20 weeks it is perfectly legal.

Those one-tenth of one percent that own the 40 percent or so of America’s printed money and access to all the keys of the Kingdom are the problem for those of us who believe in Good Government, small-d democracy. But for these groups I’ve outlined-- the Revolting Randian Calvinist Class—government is where evil is either restrained or endorsed, not a secular mechanism for transferring power peaceably. 

In their eyes, you are the legal authority over yourself  (a perverted version of sovereignty in modern civil society), you have the right to be your own state and must only give to the government by your free will alone. 

For this group of families and the MNC’s, NGO’s and TAN’s they operate, their entire belief system (Dominionist) can be read  like this: Man Has NO Authority to govern Man, Only God Has That Authority.

 They truly believe the Constitution to be Biblically based (Deuteronomy and Leviticus) and push for all laws, starting with the most local law, to become “theonomic.”

My ideas?
Tax the Church.
 

Get the Private Money out of elections.
 

End Corporate Personhood.
 

Make Voting a celebration of Democracy AND Capitalism. Have elections on a weekend, and encourage local businesses to give discounts for people who show they’ve voted.

 Get more literature out to voters prior to election…


Say, use the Amber Alert system or another email alert system to inform voters of what EXACTLY their representatives locally and federally DID that day. Just a thought.

Also, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-drew/the-stranglehold-on-our-p_b_3964525.html is a great piece...here's an excerpt:
"
In the past ten elections, voter turnout for presidential contests--which requires a tremendous and expensive effort by the campaigns--has ranged from 51.7 to 61.6 percent, while for the midterms it's been in the high thirties. Turnout was highest for the two midterms in which the Republicans made their greatest gains: in 1994, when Clinton was president, it was 41.1 percent and in 2010 it was 41.6 percent. In 2006, when Bush was president, the Democrats took over the House and Senate and won most of the governorships, turnout was the next highest, 40.4 percent. The quality of the candidates, the economy, and many unexpected issues of course determine the atmosphere of an election; but in the end turnout is almost always decisive.

The midterms, with their lower turnout, reward intensity. In 2010, the Republicans were sufficiently worked up about the new health care law and an old standby, "government spending," particularly the stimulus bill, to drive them to the polls in far larger numbers than the Democrats. A slight upward tick in turnout numbers can have a disproportionate impact in Congress and many of the states, and therefore the country as a whole. The difference in turnout caused such a change in 2010; in fact, the Republicans gained sixty-three House seats and took control of both the governorships and the legislatures in twelve states; the Democrats ended up with control of the fewest state legislative bodies since 1946. The midterms go a long way toward explaining the dismaying spectacle in Washington today. State elections bear much of the responsibility for the near paralysis in Congress thus far this year and the extremism that has gripped the House Republicans and is oozing over into the Senate."

Wednesday, September 25, 2013

No, Bagger, Obamacare Does Not Take Anyone's Guns

Gun Owners of America · 271,358 like this
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  • Soup McGee -- I call #BS. #Cruz is an #idiot.
    • Soup McGee -- bagger, please. I call BS because YOU have no source. Show me the page in the ACA...http://www.dol.gov/ebsa/healthreform/ http://www.google.com/url... have FUN!
    • Soup McGee --"‘‘SEC. 2716. PROHIBITION ON DISCRIMINATION IN FAVOR OF HIGHLY
      COMPENSATED INDIVIDUALS.
      ‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—A group health plan (other than a selfinsured
      plan) shall satisfy the requirements of section 105(h)(2)
      of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (re
      lating to prohibition on
      discrimination in favor of highly compensated individuals).
      ‘‘(b) RULES AND DEFINITIONS.—For purposes of this section—
      ‘‘(1) CERTAIN RULES TO APPLY.—Rules similar to the rules
      contained in paragraphs (3), (4), and (8) of section 105(h) of
      such Code shall apply.
      ‘‘(2) HIGHLY COMPENSATED INDIVIDUAL.—The term ‘highly
      compensated individual’ has the meaning given such term by
      section 105(h)(5) of such Code.’’.
      (e) Section 2717 of the Public Health Service Act, as added
      by section 1001(5) of this Act, is amended—
      (1) by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections
      (d) and (e), respectively; and
      (2) by inserting after subsection (b), the following:
      ‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
      ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
      and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
      (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any
      information relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
      firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
      of an individual; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
      or ammunition by an individual.
      ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the
      authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
      and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
      Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
      collection of any information relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition;
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
      the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
      Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made
      by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used
      to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of
      a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
      ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
      be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
      and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
      a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under
      any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance
      with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
      amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
      upon—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
      INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
      information under any data collection activity authorized under
      the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
      made by that Act relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
      or ammunition.’’.
      (f) Section 2718 of the Public Health Service Act, as added
      by section 1001(5), is amended to read as follows:
      ‘‘SEC. 2718. BRINGING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH
    • Pieprzyć Twoją Matkę I'm not name calling or trying to make a point, that put's the burden of proof in your court.

      #AdHominem
    • Soup McGee (e) Section 2717 of the Public Health Service Act, as added
      by section 1001(5) of this Act, is amended—
      (1) by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections
      (d) and (e), respectively; and
      (2) by inserting after subsection (b), the following:

      ‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
      ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
      and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
      (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any
      information relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
      firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
      of an individual; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
      or ammunition by an individual.
      ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the
      authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
      and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
      Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
      collection of any information relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition;
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
      the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
      Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made
      by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used
      to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of
      a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
      ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
      be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
      and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
      a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under
      any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance
      with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
      amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
      upon—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
      INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
      information under any data collection activity authorized under
      the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
      made by that Act relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
      or ammunition.’’.
    • Soup McGee ball in your court
  • Kim Silvernail This is a man to keep our eyes on, a patriot not afraid to smack a little sense into his own party a well as the other idiots. Good job .
  • Timothe Ryan #Cruzmissle 21hours + like a boss
  • Ray Schwartz Way to go Ted
  • Talitha Allee We know we are. Too bad there are some that prefer to bury their heads in the sand and think that the Islamist Muslim in the White House has their backs. Wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in their face. Are you people really that stupid to think your rights aren't at stake?
  • Mario Mayorga Presidential material. I think he would kick ass in office.
  • Therese Bacciarini-Miller I for one will be voting RED next election
    I was a democrat until this travesty of Obamacare crap caused my husband to lose fulltime and insurance. #MakeDCListen
  • John Walsh OK soup, why is Cruz an idiot?
    • Soup McGee (e) Section 2717 of the Public Health Service Act, as added
      by section 1001(5) of this Act, is amended—
      (1) by redesignating subsections (c) and (d) as subsections
      (d) and (e), respectively; and
      (2) by inserting after subsection (b), the following:
      ‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
      ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness
      and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
      (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any
      information relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
      firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
      of an individual; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
      or ammunition by an individual.
      ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the
      authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
      and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
      Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
      collection of any information relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition;
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of
      the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
      Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made
      by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used
      to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of
      a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
      ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not
      be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
      and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in
      a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under
      any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance
      with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
      amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance
      upon—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
      ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
      INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any
      information under any data collection activity authorized under
      the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
      made by that Act relating to—
      ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm
      or ammunition; or
      ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
      or ammunition.’’.
  • Tom Sawyer Same here Therese Bacciarini-Miller. Never voted for Obama but will never vote dem again from this day forward.